Legislature(1999 - 2000)

02/29/2000 03:46 PM House HES

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HB 392 - CONTINUANCES OF CINA HEARINGS                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
CHAIRMAN DYSON announced the next  order of business as House Bill                                                              
No. 392, "An Act relating to continuances  for temporary placement                                                              
hearings that  follow emergency custody  of a minor;  and amending                                                              
Rule 10, Alaska Child in Need of Aid Rules."                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Number 1937                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  JIM WHITAKER, Alaska  State Legislature,  sponsor,                                                              
came forward to present HB 392.   He explained that this change in                                                              
the  law is  simple  and yet  meaningful.   The  genesis for  this                                                              
legislation is concern, distress  and probable near-panic in which                                                              
parents  or  guardians  may  find  themselves.    This  minor  law                                                              
accomplishes one thing:   it requires that the  judge presiding at                                                              
the CINA  [Child in  Need of  Aid] hearing  inform each  parent or                                                              
each guardian  that he/she has a  right to request up to  a seven-                                                              
day continuance  - that he/she has  a right to have time  to think                                                              
and to defend himself/herself.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  WHITAKER said  hopefully, given  time, the  parent                                                              
will  become introspective  and contemplate  what positive  action                                                              
he/she can take to reunite the family,  rather than having time to                                                              
only react angrily and negatively,  which pits him/her against the                                                              
system, a  reaction which only keeps  the family apart.   The bill                                                              
requires the judge to tell the parents/guardians  that they have a                                                              
right to take enough time to think and "get their act together."                                                                
                                                                                                                                
CHAIRMAN DYSON  said he  understands that judges  can do  this now                                                              
and perhaps should,  and this only makes it clear  in the law that                                                              
the judges are required to do it.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE WHITAKER answered that is correct.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  GREEN   made  a  motion  to  adopt   the  proposed                                                              
committee  substitute   (CS)  for  HB  392,   version  1-LS1224\D,                                                              
Lauterbach, 2/29/00,  as a work draft.  There  being no objection,                                                              
Version D was before the committee.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
CHAIRMAN  DYSON  invited  the  sponsor's   staff  to  explain  the                                                              
changes.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
LORI BACKES, Staff  for Representative Jim Whitaker,  came forward                                                              
to explain  the changes  in the proposed  CS.  She  explained that                                                              
all the changes  came about as a result of comments  received from                                                              
Blair  McCune and  Elmer Lindstrom.    In the  original bill,  the                                                              
hearing was  referred to as a  temporary placement hearing.   That                                                              
has been changed  to refer to those hearings as  temporary custody                                                              
hearings.  The reference to "up to  seven days" has been taken out                                                              
so there  is not  a limit,  and it  would be  up to the  presiding                                                              
judge's discretion  whether it would  be necessary to have  a two-                                                              
day limit  or an 11-day  limit, so it  would not be  unnecessarily                                                              
restricted.    On  page  2,  line 1  of  the  original  bill,  the                                                              
following was  deleted:   "the court may  not grant more  than one                                                              
continuance before a temporary placement hearing is held."                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Number 1728                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE BRICE  expressed concern that by  removing that cap                                                              
of up  to 7  days, it  is possible  that the  judge could  grant a                                                              
continuance  up  to 60  days  and stop  the  clock  on the  90-day                                                              
hearings for complete custody or for the process.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
MS. BACKES  indicated it is  the intention that  these proceedings                                                              
don't  take  longer than  is  absolutely  necessary.   She  hasn't                                                              
received any response  that it may be extended  extraordinarily to                                                              
the degree suggested.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Number 1635                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
GLADYS LANGDON,  Children Services  Manager, Southcentral  Region,                                                              
Family  Services,  Division of  Family  & Youth  Services  (DFYS),                                                              
Department  of Health &  Social Services  (DHSS), came  forward to                                                              
testify.   She acknowledged  support of  the amended changes  from                                                              
the committee.   In  addition to  that, the  department is  asking                                                              
that there be  one additional change to be consistent  with recent                                                              
legislative  and  court  rules,  to  make  a  distinction  between                                                              
children in  need of  aid and delinquent  minors.  The  department                                                              
recommends changing the word "minor"  everywhere it appears in the                                                              
bill, including the title, to "child".                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
CHAIRMAN DYSON asked if the title can be changed.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
ELMER LINDSTROM,  Special Assistant,  Office of the  Commissioner,                                                              
Department of  Health & Social  Services, came forward  to answer.                                                              
He stated that the title can be changed.   He explained that a few                                                              
years  ago, the  juvenile and  child-in-need-of-aid statutes  were                                                              
one body  of statutes.   Subsequently,  AS 47.10  became the  CINA                                                              
statute and  AS 47.12  became the juvenile  statute, but  there is                                                              
still some  residual  misuse of names.   The  department wants  to                                                              
refer to "child" in AS 47.10 and to "minor" in AS 47.12.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
CHAIRMAN  DYSON asked  if there was  any objection  to adopting  a                                                              
conceptual  amendment that  would  delete "minor"  and replace  it                                                              
with  "child"  wherever  it appears  in  the  CS.   There  was  no                                                              
objection; therefore, the amendment was adopted.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Number 1432                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MS. LANGDON stated  that the department supports this  bill.  This                                                              
is already occurring in regions across the state.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
DOUG  WOOLIVER,  Administrative  Attorney,  Administrative  Staff,                                                              
Office  of  the  Administrative  Director,  Alaska  Court  System,                                                              
responded to  a question by Chairman  Dyson, saying the  court has                                                              
no objection to the bill.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
CHAIRMAN DYSON  stated that if this  bill passes or not,  the fact                                                              
that parents  have a right  to ask for  a continuance ought  to be                                                              
clearly stated in the brochure put out by DHSS.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MS. OLMSTEAD noted this is a wonderful change.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Number 1324                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MARCI  SCHMIDT testified  via teleconference  from the  Matanuska-                                                              
Susitna  Legislative  Information   Office.    She  expressed  her                                                              
support for HB 392.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Number 1316                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
CLYDE  LORENZ testified  via teleconference  from  Fairbanks.   He                                                              
expressed his satisfaction with HB 392.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Number 1309                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MR. CALDER said he didn't have any  objections.  He suggested dual                                                              
or  parallel sections  to  do the  same  for parents  involved  in                                                              
juvenile cases.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
CHAIRMAN DYSON said Mr. Calder's point was well taken.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Number 1252                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
SARAH  SHORT testified  via teleconference  from  Anchorage.   She                                                              
believes this is  a good bill.  She is concerned  about protecting                                                              
the rights  of parents to  be able to  have visitation  during the                                                              
time the child  is in limbo when  the state has custody,  but when                                                              
there hasn't  been a  court hearing  to say  whether the  child is                                                              
really in need of aid.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Number 1197                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
BLAIR MCCUNE, Deputy Director, Public  Defender Agency, Department                                                              
of Administration,  testified via  teleconference from  Anchorage.                                                              
He expressed support for HB 392.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
CHAIRMAN DYSON asked  if language should be added  to suggest that                                                              
the judge make  provision for the  family to be able to  visit the                                                              
child, or  to direct the department  to make the  provision during                                                              
this continuance.   Or is  that a "given,"  and the  department is                                                              
already supposed to do that?                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. LANGDON answered  that the department is already  making those                                                              
arrangements.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CHAIRMAN DYSON noted that there is  concern that it sometimes - or                                                              
perhaps even often - doesn't happen.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MS. LANGDON  said it  is already  an expectation  and part  of the                                                              
policy that the  department provides visitation for  families.  To                                                              
that extent,  she doesn't  see that there  needs to be  additional                                                              
orders from the court.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE BRICE  made a motion  to move CSHB 392,  version 1-                                                              
LS1224\D, Lauterbach,  2/29/00, as amended, out  of committee with                                                              
individual recommendations and the  zero fiscal note.  There being                                                              
no  objection,   CSHB  392(HES)  moved  from  the   House  Health,                                                              
Education and Social Services Committee.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                

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